Moza R5

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Pullblox, Oct 9, 2022.

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  1. Nick Thorn

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    That's encouraging.
    Moza has a pretty big user base now. Enough to justify co-operation.
    It's almost there as it is, but to get the full functionality would be awesome.
     
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  2. Peter Koch

    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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  3. Pullblox

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    Is the steering angle automatically adjusted to each car or does it have to be adjusted in the software for the steering wheel base?
     
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    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Unfortunately It has to be adjusted for every car. The cammus software is locked and they don't provide any support.
    But it's easy with Cammus phone app.
     
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    Do you have to manually configure it in iRacing too?
     
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    Peter Koch Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Don't have Iracing.
     
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    Moza is fully compatible with rFactor 2 and iRacing. This is what I play. I changed my g923 to Moza R5 in the hope of compatibility with all simulators, but R3E as always has problems with this.
     
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    As a result, from the serious compatibility problems of Moza base and R3E, two can still be distinguished: the ffb disappears and the steering angle that does not automatically adjust to the selected car. All this is solved by setting it manually, as mentioned above. And even if you set up ffb without immersive effects (although Moza representatives do not recommend doing this), ffb in R3E is excellent.
    P.S.: but judging by Moza recommendation settings, ffb in R3E can be even better...
     
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    What do you mean by that, BTW?

    Personally, I vastly prefer FFB without Engine vibrations.
     
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  11. Nick Thorn

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    Yes that is exactly the issue.
    Perhaps on a R9 the sacrifice of limiting strength isn't such an issue, but on the r5 with weaker feedback it becomes more of an issue.

    Similar situation for me. I previously owned a Logitech 920, but it suffered downshift issues. (only with Raceroom)
    My initial plan was to purchase a Fanatec setup, but my budget would only stretch to a basic setup, which suffered supply shortages.
    And so I ended up with a Moza r5 which if I am perfectly honest is good enough for my rather low driving ability.

    Games/Sims tested so far.

    AC - Working as expected
    ACC - Working as expected
    Automobilista 2 - Working as expected
    Project Cars 2 - Working as expected
    iRacing - Working as expected
    Rfactor 2 - Working as expected

    Raceroom - Semi Working with some compromise.

    Honestly guys that's all the information and knowledge I have experienced, your mileage may vary.
     
  12. Maskerader

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    Is it similar to the issue with R9? If you set all immersion sliders to 0, you have FFB on the first stint of your session.

    The guys were able to find a workaround (bind a button for "Reset FFB" and press it) and a fix:
    https://forum.kw-studios.com/index.php?threads/moza-racing-r9-base.18519/page-2#post-240558
    Although for a fix you'd probably need to add those lines manually with R5 ID that you can find in the file for your control profile here: Documents\My games\SimBin\RaceRoom Racing Experience\UserData\ControlSet
     
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  13. Nick Thorn

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    Interesting information which may help Moza and kw studios diagnose the problem.
    I can say with 100% confidence if my immersion settings are set to zero across the board.
    Then I end up with absolutely no feedback at all on my R5.
    Edit:
    I keep the Raceroom feedback graph open, I can see Raceroom transmitting the various forces that I do not experience.
    If that graph could be sent in a meaningful way to the Moza r5/r9 then most of the major incompatibilities would be resolved?
     
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  14. Maskerader

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    Did you try the "Reset FFB" button?
     
  15. Nick Thorn

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    I don't think I have?
    Its probably the only thing I haven't yet done.
    Yes, I did try it. In my last Race 20 mins ago. It didn't harm me.
    I was hoping for a lost secret sauce that would wake up my ffb disadvantage.
    Suffice to say, it made no difference.

    After exiting the game and restarting it, I did indeed gain a very basic level of force feedback.
    But it adds just steering resistance. A very easy thing to detect.
    I will do some further testing.
    Is there any way to print the current version of Raceroom?
    I have no idea when new versions are updated.

    As a final, all these adjustments are costing me precious safety points.
    I can only hope that those who meet me on Track will take that into consideration.
     
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  16. pierredietze

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    What are your pithouse settings?
     
  17. Nick Thorn

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    Sorry I am not going down any more rabbit holes.
    The settings in my pithouse work 100% with every sim I have ever tried.
    That is for the employee of sector3/kw studios who received the FREE wheel but didn't quite do their homework.
     
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    KW studios have nothing to do with what profile you selected in Moza software and what settings Moza put in there.

    The requirement to use Immersion settings is apparently fixable and also has a very easy workaround. Which I'm not sure you even tried correctly because Pullblox has the same wheel and the workaround works for him. Unless there's something else going on, for example firmware version is different.
     
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  19. Nick Thorn

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    I assume you are now talking on behalf of kw studios in an official manner?
    At no point did I ever say or imply my Moza pithouse software or profile has anything to do with anything. Let alone any settings it stores. Your assumption is simply wrong.

    Please do not tell me my issues unless you own a Moza r5 and have tested it to the extent I have. If you don't own a Moza r5 I see little or no point in you advising me.
    I have tried everything, adjusted every single parameter that is possible.
    Please do not insult me.
    If Pullbox somehow resolved his issues, then good for him. But there is no evidence that the issue is resolved for R5 users, your words will not make the problem disappear.
     
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  20. Maskerader

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    No, just a common sense.

    Could be. It's hard to tell from so much words what exactly you did and what exactly happened. Or if we're even talking about the same problem.

    There's evidence that:
    1) R9 has an issue that has a solution.
    2) R5 has an issue that looks similar.
    3) There are two R5 users on this forum: one seems to have solved his issue using the solution for R9; the other one (you) didn't try or even read the solution when I posted the link.

    So until there's a concrete information that the R9 solution does indeed not work for some or all R5 wheels, we can assume a solution is found. For now, it works on a player side, but it looks like it can also be released on the game's side soon.
     
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