Anyone that bought the 296 GT3 / DTM should be entitled to vRP !

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  1. JMGTR32

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    I was under the impression that the licence was lost but it could still be used in ranked if you had it. It seems that is no longer the case,
    I think its only fair and the decent thing to do that anyone that bought it and additional liveries should be refunded vRP of the same value to their account.
    At the end of the day you've paid for a product and then its been removed with no compensation. Take the money and run kind of look.
    I mean personally I had to spend more money to replace it.
     
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  2. Maskerader

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    You can still use it in single player and non-ranked multiplayer, but yeah, this is not good, they should let you use it ranked races.
     
  3. MS_Racer03

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    Well, I purchased the Ferrari almost instantly as it was released as part of the GTR3 class and later liveries of DTM packs. I had a great time with it, many great races, two special events, the best driving experience in GT3. I'm very sad it's gone. However, I did have a value for my money (around two years of unlimited racing), so giving me all the VRP back would neither be possible (impossible to calculate how much I actually spend on the content) nor fair. It's a different story for people who recently bought the car, maybe even just for DTM eSports.

    I wonder if one solution to bring it back could be to promise Ferrrai 100% of future income from the 488 and 296 when making a new contract for the 296 Evo. RaceRoom wouldn't earn anything from those cars of course, but right now, they don't earn anything AND people are disappointed.
     
  4. Vale

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    My guess is Ferrari took a big upfront royalty and it wasn´t worth renewing the licence on raceroom´s side as they didn´t recoup. You can be sure if everyone was making money they would have extended.
     
  5. Maskerader

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    Why were the cars removed from ranked races though?
     
  6. MS_Racer03

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    I'd explain it like this: people who have bought the Ferrari before it was removed would have an advantage over people who can't buy the Ferrari now if the Ferrari was the best car at a specific track.
    Maybe they also want to avoid the situation with the old Porsche GT3. It's shown, it says 'Buy now' but you can't buy it.
    As a side effect, they need to BoP one car less (laziness).

    No matter what, I wish it was different. All the other GT3s don't handle the way I want it, I'm multiple seconds off pace with the Hypercars - that's basically Special Events done for me.
     
  7. Maskerader

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    No, these things are not related at all.

    I don't think this was ever the case, so the risk of it happening is pretty low. Even if it happens, it's better than giving the middle finger to people who keep the game afloat by buying cars and tracks.
     
  8. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    my guess not having the licence means Raceroom are no longer able to sell or promote the cars for Racerooms benefit

    legally define promote .......

    Andi
     
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  9. liconoque

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    The Ferrari license isn't being supported anymore on RaceRoomso they're not allowed to use it on multiplayerevnts and to sell it, you stillownit and ifthe license comes back, you will be able to use it.

    There was the same problem with some tracks and cars by the past, they know people are frustrated, but I think they are even more since it's a lack of revenue income and a loss of players.

    So, no they souldn't refund thecarfor the owner, it would cost too much for something they could get back in 3 months. It's part of the beauty of the game, having some unique cars others don't have.
    And I'm pretty sure it'll come back sooner than we think, not by the end of the week though.
     
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  10. Maskerader

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    Did they say that? Can you post their quote?

    Otherwise, I'm personally not interested in players' guesses. I can offer a ton of them myself but since there is no way to actually verify them, they are all useless chatter.


    How do you know it's the same problem and that these cars will return? We also have three cars that were removed from sales and never returned, are you sure this is not the case with Ferrari?


    I strongly disagree.
     
  11. liconoque

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    They said it in the last GridTalk, it was announced, they just not communicate strongly on it, maybe because they wanted to not affectthe sales before losing the license.


    Same reason : GridTalk, they know the license is important for the players, and, since they're trying to bring the restof GT3 cars stillmùissing on the game, it makes sense too.


    It's my opinion, you can think another way. But I do think that owning some unique cars that my friends will never had is a bit cool :)
     
  12. Vale

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    I may be mistaken but I recall that they announced it AFTER the cars were removed from shop. I do remember that Rfactor 2 had a similar issue with Silverstone but they at least announced it in advance to give people a chance to download the track before it was too late. Really that would be a no brainer as you would get a surge in last minute sales and that would be good indicator for future licences as to potential maximum sales.
     
  13. ShortyBuzzGER

    ShortyBuzzGER Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    people want quotes, people get quotes:

    "there's no news, just a licensing topic as you can surely guess. The essential part is whoever owns the cars gets to keep them. They just are not in store at the moment. these possible sudden disappearances are just something to live with in today's world." (13.03.2026, J-F)

    "An educated guess from my side would be that sometimes announcing something will go away will boost sales and be seen as an attempt to bank on a piece of content for which an agreement on a license extension was not reached" (13.03.2026, J-F) (which relates to the rF2 thing they did with Le Mans and Ferrari GTE i think it were or what you said above with Silverstone)

    "they can still use them [the Ferrari cars] in all game modes, drive them, etc. They bought it, they keep it" (13.03.2026, J-F)

    "aware of the silence not being great. Very often you would find it isn't by choice though, just being careful" (13.03.2026, J-F)

    And about the Ferraris not being used in ranked, i think a long time ago we had the same stuff with RUF for example and the reason was things that aren't purchasable shouldn't be used in official races. Didn't care to find a quote there. join discord and search for yourselves :p


    Anyway, to the OP by the way: feeling entitled is already the wrong mindset and won't get you anywhere! Be happy you were able to get those cars in the first place. many others can't now.
     
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  14. Vale

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    Another reason for not using them in ranked is it reduces game loading times - more players using cars and skins means longer loads.

    Unfortunately Raceroom and gaming in general, play in their own league regarding transparency so here is an idea. Why not put an EOL date for each retiring item in store in the description a trimester in advance? The reason does not have to be licensing, it could be to with price increases e.g. DTM 92 BMW is now 2.5 times the cost of the Audi, Ford and Opel, with the Merc in between. If people know an item is only available say for another 3 months then it´s on them to buy them and can´t complain afterwards.
     
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  15. Maskerader

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    In SOME game modes.


    No, it's the right mindset of a paying customer.

    The wrong mindset is "don't complain when companies take away what you paid for". It's kinda wild how things like that got normalized and are even defended. Even if we can't change it now, it doesn't mean it's all fine and dandy.
     
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  16. Vale

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    To be fair you can now get all the other DTM cars and tracks for less than what the 2 Ferraris cost without even adding the price of skins. It would be neat they let is know how long these offers last, same as new Spa 50% off.

    There is a ruckus now with Sony making players log in every month or they lose access to games they paid for so the whole situation does need to be improved. I mean imagine I paid for a season ticket for the football and missed a couple of matches then they don´t let me use it the rest of the season.
     
  17. Maskerader

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    I don't get this part either. If a license is secured up to date X, how can it be an issue to bank on that content before that date?
     
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  18. Vale

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    I think he means that it´s a way of generating panic sales in a cry wolf method if later the item does come back, maybe like toliet roll in COVID. The thing is we are talking about DLCS not consumer goods so there is no stock level to worry about.

    Like I said, if you give people a 3 month warning then there is no special panic and no loss to the company either, so it´s a win win. Also people will know something is not going to be used in MP so they can make a reasoned decidion whether it interests them or not, same as happens every year with annual DTM packs. The current one is cheap but it will soon be out of date and most of the cars won´t be elegible for ranked in a few months.
     
  19. ShortyBuzzGER

    ShortyBuzzGER Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    No, all game modes. ranked is just a part of multiplayer and the game mode itself is multiplayer obviously :shrug:

    Interesting how you understand people. Defending? okay then. I just say entitlement is always wrong. Doesn't matter where. And i never said that it isn't allowed to complain. But okay if you say so :D
     
  20. ShortyBuzzGER

    ShortyBuzzGER Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    But isn't it the same in the end? Creating "panic" bvecause it can be possibly gone in 3 months but then maybe they make a new deal and people being people start to cry because sellout, as the item is still there to buy after those 3 months of "panic".