[Official] Complete car physics/AI status lookup - updated 05/01/2023

Discussion in 'Car Information and physics updates' started by Alex Hodgkinson, May 23, 2020.

  1. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    Think the 1992 audi dtm is also four wheel drive (and indeed id think the car you mentioned as well)
     
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  2. Beastux

    Beastux Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you are right, I forgot it as I don't drive it! :D
     
  3. Nico Kunze

    Nico Kunze Well-Known Member

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    Neither do i (in fact theres probably 1-3 cars from pre 2005 that i drive anywhere near regularly :D) but i remembered the zolder race of the dtm esports challenge a couple years ago where all the audis went off like rockets at the start :D
     
  4. VFX Pro

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    With electric become the main source of power, 4WD will be standard on every race car... it's just plain faster and provide more grip.
     
  5. Leto Tirdania

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    @Alex Hodgkinson I think I found an error. In 1992 DTM cars used Group A regulations, and they did not allow ABS. But in your document DTM92 cars have ABS.
     
  6. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    DTM weren't run to group A rules. They did have ABS.
     
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  9. Leto Tirdania

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    That's strange, I read the Group A document and it clearly say ABS is forbidden. Maybe Wikipedia is wrong about DTM92 using group A rules then..
     
  10. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    A race series can choose to have its own version of a ruleset. Even if the cars are group a homologated it doesn't mean they can't have abs if the series rules allow it. Hence why I said it's not group a, because it's not pure, it's a version of it.
     
  11. Leto Tirdania

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    Ahh, okay. That makes sense, thanks.
     
  12. Maskerader

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    Apparently they had a modified version of Group A rules:
    "The 1992 season was the last under the same regulations as more or less started in 1986; Group A based but with more freedom in the engine department."
    http://www.touringcarracing.net/Pages/1992 DTM.html

    Also from this list http://www.touringcarracing.net/Pages/1992 Cars.html and from how it was worded in the video above, it looks like Audi didn't have ABS.
     
  13. Leto Tirdania

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    If any of you know more about DTM rules for the Raceroom years, feel free to check that the wiki page I wrote about them is correct:
    DTM - Raceroom Wiki (miraheze.org)
     
  14. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I wasn't aware of different rules for 2013 re and and TC. I may be wrong of course....
     
  15. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    BMW, Mercedes and Opel had ABS in 1992, Audi and Ford didn't have it.

    Between 2014 and 2016, DRS was also used. The rules on how often you could use DRS changed over the years, though.

    [​IMG]
     
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  16. Leto Tirdania

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  17. majuh

    majuh Well-Known Member

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    I think only the following classes are left on older physics:
    • DTM 2013-2016
    • KTM X-Bow RR Cup
    • GTR1
    • GTR2
    • WTCC 2013
    • Zonda R Cup
     
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  18. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Zonda is updated. Xbow is on old physics.
     
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  19. Maskerader

    Maskerader Well-Known Member

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    Alex did adjust Zonda a couple years ago, but it's not on the latest version of tires and suspension.
     
  20. rad

    rad Well-Known Member

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    Same with GTR1 & 2. Those are one of first classes that he reworked after joining RR. It's still miles better than X-Bow mentioned above