Telemetry SecondMonitor (Timing & status App)

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  1. Nuck Chorris

    Nuck Chorris New Member

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    A couple more questions, the setups car screen and setup checks screen, it seems that in R3E second monitor things the track and ambient temp is only 1degress C. Also it is reporting that my tyres are seriously overinflated and i know this cannot be true, also it doesn't make sense since also the functionality to hover mouse over the pressure is advising me to put pressures up in places ? - does the setup stuff work in the cars sections yet for R3E ? finding it hard to work out where this app is getting the temps and pressures from, is it the sim? the ideal temp and pressure ranges for the Ferrari 488 GT3 for example, are these preloaded into SM or are they coming from the game?
     
  2. Nuck Chorris

    Nuck Chorris New Member

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    I don't think this is right, my championship cup was blue, ran the first race and it didn't register the race in the championship, even though i saw it log the whole race live, the game moved onto the second race and SecondMonitor does not know about the first race in this championship, click on the blue cup and it turns green now as if it will record the second race. But that's no help since we have now lost the first race from the standings and points. And most sims will not allow you to restart the same championship after progressing to the next round.
    Really need to make it such that users can actually force the championship start, as the detection is too iffy, very frustrating to get to the end have to somhow restart and get SM to detect. That or to load into the program the tracks from the games.
     
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  3. Nuck Chorris

    Nuck Chorris New Member

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    Help for anyone trying to use championships, I have noticed that the blue trophy cup icon may actually disappear to grey again when moving from qualifying into the race session, the app half detects it (blue) but then forgets (grey), before the race, click the trophy again and the dialog box which comes up, you will have to pick the intended championship again, make sure that it is displaying (green) in the timing window first. Also, it probably necessary to train second monitor on the first track in a championship and have this track stored in memory before creating the championship, then add it as your first track, having a blank track placeholder on first round of the championship seems to not allow the app to detect it.

    I am also working on the ability to change colours on the app as the current instructions from 4 years ago dont seem to work anymore. The custom config file is not being read by the app, and seemingly not even if replacing the colors main file in either documents or from within the programs x86 folder of the main app.
     
  4. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    R3E doesn't have ambient and track temperature in the shared data, that's why on places where it might be shown, some kind of default value is shown.

    As for tyre pressure, tyres pressures and temperatures come from sim. For R3E the app considers ideal pressure to be when the temparute is a nice linear gradient between outer middle and inner tyre temps. If the middle temp is hotter then it is overinflated, if it is colder, then it is underinflated. Ofc, the tyres need to be warmed up for the reading to make sense. Also the ideal pressure is just estimated based on these temperature difference.

    For championships, Blue icon means that there is a potential championship. You need to click it, and select one of the presented championships. Then it turns green, and it should be tracked between session. Automatic picking of session as championship is only done when all properties match -> that is, number of opponents, class, and track (with exact layout). It is normal for the icon to turn grey between session, becasue the app cannot tell if another session will follow, or you quit to menu... As soon as another session is picked up, the app will see that it matches the previous selected championship and turn green again.

    The just pushed version allows for rename. So far it is possible to rename only the players selected car, I will expand that in later updates. The renames are persisted, so if one of the AI/Network players cars was previously renanamed, it will use the renamed name.
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  5. Nuck Chorris

    Nuck Chorris New Member

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    Circled in yellow. Ideal Temperature Ranges - before the user enters a value - are these temp ranges coming from the sim? or did you program them in per car?
     

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  6. Ale8888

    Ale8888 New Member

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    Thanks for the update just tried the rename feature,love it,when fully implemented it will be amazing,thanks for your efforts
     
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  7. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    The ideal temperatures do not come from sim. The default value is generic temperature that makes sense for most racing tyres.
     
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  8. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    In the just released version, it is possible to change name of all cars in the session from the car setting window. :)
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  9. Ale8888

    Ale8888 New Member

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    Amazing, thanks so much for adding this feature so quickly
     
  10. morsify

    morsify Active Member

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    I have a niggling suspicion I might have asked this before but I can't find it in the forum, so sorry if it has already been answered.
    Just a small issue, when using the pit board in AMS 1, my position is off by 1.
    eg if I am running in 4th, it says I am in 3rd.
    Is there any way to correct this?
    Many Thanks
     
  11. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    I will have to check why that happens. Haven't played AMS 1 in years :)
     
  12. morsify

    morsify Active Member

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    haha, I know, I still love it, if you get chance, many thanks, but it's not the end of the world.
     
  13. Nuck Chorris

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    I see you removed the ability to make the custom colours xml file. I had a snoopy decompile of your code and can see you split the colours now into seperate libraries that are shared across different parts of the program where you have brushes and colour definitons compiled now upon installation. Are you going to make an easy way for us to change the colours or are we stuck now with the arthracite brown?
     
  14. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    AMS 1 was my most played sim for a looong time, so I fully understand ;) I will check what's going.

    The method should work once again in the next version. But I cannot tell how usable it will be to fully customize the colors. There are still places that do not used the color from the xaml. So best thing then is to report them to me, I should be able to fix it.
     
  15. reneaun

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    Is the ride height telemetry data reliable? I drove the DTM2020 Audi at Spa and when I lowered the car from the default setup values, the car started making strange sounds as if it was bottoming and at Eau Rouge it slowed down strangely. But the telemetry data doesn't show any contacts to the ground, minimum ride height is over 30 mm front and aft.
     
  16. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    For R3E it comes directly from sim data, without any alteration done by the app.
     
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  17. natj910

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    Hi, so a quick question (that I'm guessing has been asked before, but I didn't see it clicking back a few pages). I've been using SecondMonitor with R3E and ACC - but would love to use it with F1 24 too. Are there likely to be any plans to get it working with F1 22/23/24?
     
  18. Nuck Chorris

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    Pretty sure it does Nat, but I think you must enable UDP in the plugins app. ?
     
  19. Winzarten

    Winzarten Well-Known Member

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    Not atm, I don't own those iteration, so I'm not able to support them. There is still posibility that someone will jump in and add the support (it shouldn't be complicated), but I doubt that.
     
  20. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    @Winzarten

    Having some problems starting the app. It is saying it needs some Microsoft stuff installing, I am taken to the appropriate place and I install the stuff. But then upon trying to start the app it says the same thing again.