Hi Forum ! I am struggling with the setup of the GT3 AMG - just cant get rid of that understeer. So i am experimenting with toe-in and toe-out settings. Can somebody please explain what the positive and negative numbers mean ? Does setting the front wheels to -0,19 mean the tires have toe-in or toe-out ? Maybe in German: Bedeuten negative Werte hier Vor- oder Nachspur ? Ich meine die Kiste verhält sich nicht so, wie man es bei mehr Vorspur erwartet. Kann es sein, dass die Werte hier genau falsch rum laufen ? Thanks ! Carsten P.S.: If you have a daownloadable setup please give me a hint !
Hi Carsten, you can look for setups in this subforum: https://forum.sector3studios.com/index.php?forums/car-setups.78/ Regarding toe: Because the setting is called "Toe-in", positive values result in positive toe-in (i.e. toe-in) and negative values result in negative toe-in (i.e. toe-out). So using your example, a setting of -0.19 means there's toe-out.
Actually I wouldn't point to that orphaned section of this forum. Sharing car setups is not very common in this community.
Go to Race Department, they have loads, still part of this community, just a Brother from another Mother!
And to add on that.See also this DIscord channel of Jardier (Jaroslav). Setups they use during their Youtube sessions. You can always ask if he or someone else wants to share his/her setup. Also Thomas Jansen has shared some very good setups. https://discordapp.com/channels/381157880931549195/460546819144024075 Hope it helps?
The Links mentionned above arent really much useful. There are no posts showing any setup for the Benz. The hint for positive values mean toe-in pointed in the right direction. Standard setup was toe-out at the front, whats obviously no good for a rear-wheel-drive car.
It’s normal to have a little bit of toe out at the front to help initial steering response and a little bit of toe in at the rear to help rear stability. Try the following changes: - Reset the setup - Softer front springs - Increase rear rebound damping (+2 clicks) - Reduce differential preload
Ok - thanks ! I am looking for a setup for Nordschleife, because its the track I prefer. With the the standard setup the car turns in ok, then there is quite a lot understeer towards the apex. Exiting slow corners result in massive power-oversteer. Softening the front and/or tightening the back suspension makes it even worse ! Regarding tire temps (73 front / 81 back) I assume it might be a problem at the front end. Cant get the tires working there. So i am going to check Jardiers Youtube Channel...
Hey Carsten - I've just got into R3E and only driven cars on default so far. There is a general tendency towards understeer in the default tunes I think and I'm about to pick my fav GT3 - the AMG, to get practicing with tuning and getting rid of that power on understeer is my first priority. I'll share what I learn. If you want to get started before I get back to you - I'd fiddle with the power diff (assuming it's on power oversteer you are talking about as that's the issue I have) - lower should make the car turn easier on power (might be the other way around, depends how the sim works it - I've seen both ways). Also stiffen rear rollbar or decrease rear camber (move from -ve closer to zero) will also help the car rotate on power. Small incremental changes though or you will just end up spinning out a lot (all 3 things above also make on power spins more likely). Finally dampers are a good way to micro adjust the car balance but also a way to really mess it up and more complex to use (anyone good with them might want to add their bit).
Thx for sharing ! From my point of view sub 8 minutes is quite fast. I cant go faster than 8.10 with the Benz. Are you sure about front dampers ?
@Nico Kunze : The following link is only available in german language, but if you have trouble with power-oversteer try toe-in at the rear axle: http://www.neu.automobilgutachter.de/index.php?article_id=26
I wouldn't use tire-temps as an indicator when doing set-up work, at least not in R3E. I use temps more in-race to see if I'm over-driving the car. For set-up work (what little I do) I find it's more beneficial to look at tire-wear instead. If, after 8-10 laps, you have significant differences between front and back tire-wear, you've got a problem (or you're driving a FWD )
Disagree here. If I see that the front tires don't come to temperature, I know that I have to do more to get the front running. Seen best on the Porsche GT3 Cup.
@Nico Kunze: I have tried your suggestion; must admit that it has pretty low traction. But understeer ist really minimized. Thx for sharing !