I wondered if my M2 NVME helped but looking at the other guy with my CPU then unless he has one I doubt it.
OK so I have turned on Multi-core enhancement in the bios and turned on the 4.7 turbo in there also and BANG!!!! Jumped up from 7627 Score
@Bull Shark @Larry Foster Both 8700k? my basic settings if you want them, even if you dont here they are My cpu is delided and using liquid metal thermal interface and water cooled, Asrock extreme4 mobo. CPU fixed volts@1.4v 52 multi on all cores. CPU Cache Ratio max 50 min 49. LLC load line calibration@level 1 Avx Offset 1 Very basic settings, look up 8700k oc on your mobo, will give you an idea of what is possible and if it is worth pursuing!
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 OC: Stock Memory: 16GB DDR4-3000 Mhz Dual Channel (2x8) Timings: CL16-18-18-36 GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB Spoiler: CPU-Z This is from my old system, I've upgraded to a 3600 now but had to RMA my new memory, can't touch anywhere near Thomas's score with only the 3000Mhz. Still getting everything sorted on the new stuff, trying different power profiles and BIOS settings, etc. so I'll post those scores in a few hours.
I had quite a difference between AGESA 1.0.0.1 and 1.0.0.3 with the new 3600. With PBO set to advanced and turned all the way up I was at 310 avg with the old AGESA but temps were higher than I liked. I didn't see any performance difference between the ryzen and windows power plans, FWIW. With the updated AGESA at default settings it hits 322 with great temps. Surprising upgrade from above for only a single generation, and there's still more to be had from memory tuning. CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 OC: Stock (PBO) Memory: 16GB DDR4-3000 Mhz Dual Channel (2x8) Timings: CL16-18-18-36 GPU: AMD Radeon RX 580 4GB Spoiler: CPU-Z
EDIT: In a later post I redid the benchmark on Windows 10 instead of Win7, giving me 238 fps instead of 209 in windowed mode! CPU: Intel i7 2600k CPU OC: 4.4 GHz all cores Memory: 16GB DDR3-2133 MHz Dual Memory timings: CL11-15-15-38 1T GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1070 I checked the application threads via Process Explorer and it's really weird... In fact, it's not the raw CPU power that is bottlenecking there. 1 thread at 9.5% and 1 thread at 5-6%. Normally a 1-2 thread application would max out at least one thread... Which means almost hitting 12.5% for 100% divided by my 8 CPU threads = maximum for 1 thread. The core shuffling and spreading by Windows leads to a higher overall CPU load but process explorer normally shows what's going on. At the bottom you can find process explorer screenshots of Cinebench R15 - Single Thread compared to Unigine Heaven. Windowed: Fullscreen: CPU: RAM: Thread comparison: Whatever is going on there...
It's good to know where CPUs stand for our favorite sim and well... why not? And, fun Also it has some interest as this thread is only a week old and already has 8 pages
I had exactly the same after updating to the newest agesa, went from 320ish to my current 350-360 fps, no idea how because the boosting frequencies are the same or lower, maybe it was messing up the voltage on the old one, causing invisible performance hits
If you put the results from Unigine heaven into relation, you can see how much improvement you would see in Raceroom if you'd upgrade. The performance relations seem to match pretty perfectly so you can use it. Benching Raceroom directly would be an impossible task for such a big group due to different settings, different session settings etc etc. Too many factors that can screw up the comparison. So the point here would be: I want to upgrade at some point in the next 12 months. I have a i7 2600k and I'm not happy with my fps anymore. So I benched Unigine Heaven and got around 210 fps average. Now should I buy a i5 9600k (and overclock it?) or a Ryzen 3600? The sheet tells us: Ryzen 3600 with some PBO tweak and very nice memory (3666 CL14) = 358 fps i5 9600k at 4.8 GHz OC and 3000 CL15 = 331 fps Now the only advantage of the i5 would be its single thread performance. Multithreading it has no chance against the Ryzen. Raceroom is single threaded but the Ryzen gives slightly higher fps nonetheless. One has to have a look at the in theory even faster Ryzen 3700x though. It only runs with 3200 CL16 and the stock cooler and gives 325 fps. Which is still definitely okay! It's 6 fps difference to the i5 but smashes it out of the window when it comes to multithreading! My decision therefore would be easily done for the Ryzen 3600 since its the cheapest here in Germany! Going from the 60 fps that I currently can achieve in race sessions without ever dropping, my "new fps" would be: 2600k = 210 fps => 100% = 60 fps 9600k = 331 fps => 158% = 95 fps R5 3600 = 358 fps => 170% = 102 fps (expensive memory) R7 3700x = 325 fps => 155% = 93 fps You can't find any benchmark comparison anywhere so this thread gives us simracers some proper data to decide what one should upgrade to.
Well said though ofcourse the fps gains in raceroom are not guaranteed, it all depends how cpu limited you are. In purely cpu limited situations, like lots of AI on screen, I’m fairly confident the benchmark gains will be quite similar to the raceroom gains. Depending on your settings/resolution/refresh rate you may not be running into that though. In VR it definitely happens a lot, because the old engine has a ton of cpu overhead for drawcalls, which gets really bad for busy tracks like nords24 or lots of cars visible!
Can confirm. I also see thread usage peak at below the maximum limit of my CPU. Then again Raceroom itself behaves similarly. BTW, if I want to really stress Raceroom, I do a say 20 AI GT3 race at Spa. Coming out of La Source and down the hill towards Eau Rouge, the framerate plummets. If I have OBS running, which costs a few fps even when not recording, it can sometimes drop even below 60 fps with little change regarding graphics settings.
Btw i definitely think heaven is doing something weird with threads as you pointed out, which could be causing the i5’s to perform worse than they should, Hard to say if that is reflected in game too. SMT off lost me performance here, but actually gained slightly in raceroom. It does show that the new ryzen is highly competitive though, can definitely recommend
Knowing this, how long will R3E last? The engine is not easy to upgrade (DX11 for example) I hope a while longer as I enjoy the game Mucha....