http://www.independent.ie/world-new...e-to-stand-down-as-head-of-ukip-34854862.html I expect John Cleese to step forward in the coming days and reveal that this whole thing was Monty Python's masterpiece...
I expect that everybody get back his freedom. French voted "no" to Maastricht in 2005. The government passed thru this decision, this is not what i'll call a democratie.
Because she will probably never change her nationality as english or german people do when they come and live in France. We have no issue with these people.
Nobody voted on Maastricht in 2005, The Maastricht Treaty was signed in 1992 and came into effect in 1993. And the French voted 'yes' to Maastricht in 1992.
In 2005 french people voted against the european constitution as other countries like NL and IRE. It has been considered here as a "NO" to the Maastricht treaty of 1992.
Interesting, but a rather strange interpretation of those outcomes (not by you in particular, I believe you when you say that you aren't the only one who regarded the result as such). Just like: The EU Constitution did not come into effect after the decisions in France and the Netherlands. Parts of it were later introduced via the Lisbon Treaty, but what part of that exactly do you regard as undemocratic? The main point was the shift to qualified majority and strengthening the Parliament, which, if anything, can only be seen as a step to enhance democratic legitimacy.
Valery Giscard d'Estaing (beside Helmut Schmidt seen as one of the founding fathers of the modern EU, and former French state president), Roman Herzog (former German state president, a giant amongst constitutional law experts, and former head of the German High Court) and other prominent and intimate experts of the text said that the dictate of Lisbon in principle is the former constitution, just the ingredients reshuffled and the former criticised pieces of content moved from the main text, having only I think 16 or 26 pages, into the - intentionally confusingly arranged - appendices of over 600 pages. Both documents look different, but are the same. The Lisbon dictate then was decided behind locked doors and by not daring to ask the people once again. Like so often, the EU broke its own laws and treaties with enforcing this document and its many dramatic implications. The big problem with power monopolists.You let the people vote as often as needed until you got the vote you demand - or you do not let them have a say at all. I got myself busy with this constitution thing a bit back in those years. Forget the main text. The dangerous stuff all is in the appendices, and the ideology that underlines its content, is deeply worrying. Non-Germans also should know that the Germans were so dumb after reunification to add articles 23 and 24 to their surrogate-constitution that rule that the German state must negotiate and shift powers of sovereignty to international bodies and must work for the practical self-removal of the Germans state and its melting into a bigger international political body, means the EU. As far as I know the Germans are the only people in Europe who have made it the black-on-white written goal of their policy to dissolve their home-state and to neglect their own, historically grown national identity. The German self-hate, result of the psychological deformation of the Third Reich and the educational goals of de-nazification, is unique in the Western national landscape, though self-hate and self-denial is to be found amongst the political left in general, not just in Germany. "Its the West's fault. " Everything. The West is evil, everybody else is more good than us. Put the blame on us. Always. Well, I got around a bit in the world, North Africa, Middle East, and I saw the glory and richness and superiority of countries in these places, the splendid results of their cultural habits and thinkings that many idiots in Europe consider to be so worthy and precious and superior. I can just laugh. what pisses me big time here is that German history and culture has a span of much more than just those one and a half decade of Nazi-brown socialism and the holocaust. The founding event, when various people from the lands and the soils of the territory that from just short time later on would be referred to as "Germany, the Germans", was the battle of Lechfeld 955, when Otto the Great once and for all ended the Hungarian predatory raids into German lands. Thats over one thousand years ago. Since then, Europeans spoke of "the Germans", even if the founding of one united national state still was so much time away. BTW, the greatest cultural blossoming the German lands have seen in the era of many, early on hundreds, later dozens, of "German" kingdoms and duchies, city states. The idea of a national state imposed on them, was unknown to the people at that time, and still they all were embraced by the roots of a shared language and religious tradition, economic exchange, and improvement of the whole civilization and kowledge by economic and cultural competition to be attractive. Competition, not planned economy, is the key. The European economy union may have supported the era of peace in Europe by motivating and allowing pi8rvate travel and entrepreneurship internationally and by allowing incredible wealth and material well-being to blossom, tho9gh most on that by in the longer perspective unsustainable means and built on tick only, but I reject the self-glorification of that without the Eu there would be war in Europe and no peace (Merkel and many EU fat cats say so). The decisive point to ensure there would not be another great war in Europe, was NATO, its deterrence was what kept the Soviets out. Not the European Economy Union - its existence even might have been seen as the prey that might have lured in a predator. Today the EU and the Euro create right that tension and conflict and hostility that they claim to prevent. And the tighter their grip for power, the more sand will trickle away between their power-hungry fingers. Germany has seen two socialist planned economy and according terror regimes in just a bit over 80 years, but still the belief in a strong state and paternalism by the state and state regulation is strong, stronger than ever before: the long peace seems to have burnt out all remains of reason in people's brains. When I was a young boy in the early 80s, my grandfather once said "Not lehrt die Menschen Vernunft." Need/emergency teaches people reason. Another way to put it, is "Wer nicht hören will, muß fühlen." He who does not listen, must learn by pain."
Factually wrong. The articles mentioned say that the government may pass sovereignty in certain policy fields to a supranational body, nowhere does it say that that must happen. And it also defines the condition under which such devolution has to take place, tying it to the subsidiary principle, as well as guaranteeing the sovereignty of the Grundgesetz in all cases where EU fundamental rights don't cover the issue at hand. You're confusing an admission of guilt with self-hate or political surrender. Great times back then, when all those minor states/kingdoms would constantly have conflicts and fights, people having to deal with arbitrariness of the law on a daily basis... Liebe Grüße and den Reichsbürgerstammtisch.
Well done guys, I actually see two people who in case might like but don't listen to each other, cause they're caught within conditioned reflexes and total self-identification via beliefsystems, semantics and rigid mindsets with an (unseen) underlying emotional load, both not being able to define their natural needs, while argueing about imposed ideas, images,systems that have nothing to do with the present moment of interaction in regard of their actual selfs (not to confuse with their conditioned personalities = persona= greek for "mask" ) ...very common and a good example how the method of divide and conquer actually works - mainly through our consciousness that is filled with sensations , deceptions, fragmentation and rhetoric & semantic crap. That's the true meaning behind the the following quotes (for me) , while many who call themselves "awake" use it as a cuss, simultaneously displaying their deep dreamstate they're still caught in, projecting their own fears and unexpressed needs (hateful or arrogantly) onto everyone who comes just right.. Only a very small percentage of humanity is truely awake - all others just can't prevent to hear that bell intensely ringing or trying to smash it at all cost .... "In order to be an immaculate member of a flock of sheep, one must above all be a sheep oneself." "We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them." Albert Einstein Robert Oppenheimer (who constructed the A-Bomb) responding when asked why to use The Bomb : "Because we can". Exactly this mindset is still deeply embedded within a certain percentage of todays ruling class (Politicians, Academics,Financers, Official Representatives of all kind, Members of the Millitary-Industrial-Complex a.s.o) - the percentage that counts. To expect things might change nicely due to some pretty flawlessly formulated contracts and lip service of a bunch of centrally structured & ruling parasites (with neolibereral, neo socialistic, even neo-colonial ideas in their minds) is of outstanding naivity. Many Eurocrats for example surely believe they doing something like this - but as as they're still trapped within their conditioned mindsets (see Einstein Quote 2) they are totally unable to do that in a way that involves transparency or anything near of what we call free will - our free will is mostly manipulated to believe in something (pretty, shiny, something you can buy and admire) - not to investigate it thoroughly Parasites: "People who dismiss the unemployed and dependent as “parasites” fail to understand economics and parasitism. A successful parasite is one that is not recognized by it’s host, one that can make it’s host work for it without appearing as a burden. Such is the ruling class in a capitalist society." Jason Reed "Capitalism is the astounding belief that the most wickedest of men will do the most wickedest of things for the greatest good of everyone." "Education: the inculcation of the incomprehensible into the indifferent by the incompetent." J.M. Keynes So honestly: shall we close this "bye,bye my Euro Friends" thingy now ? It's about time....
Holy moly... Just fyi, I'm not angry or somehow else emotional. All I did was point out factual errors (might just call it what it is, lies). I will not stand aside in silence when some people try to spread their reactionist, nationalist, xenophobic or narcissist view on the world by telling blatant lies. If you quack like a duck, I take the liberty to call you out as such.
What an awful video and probably not well suited for this thread whatsoever as it does little more than talk about insulting people who happen to think differently than you, while claiming your point of view is mentally superior. Unless that was satire... in which case it went right over my head. Best not to have those videos around here since it opens the debate to insulting other people personally for thinking differently though. And this isnt really a political forum for that sort of discussion Unless it is about the politics of sim racing, then carry on
Well, you see I took insult from being described by terms and labels that, while in nowadays' politically distorted contexts are in fact compliments because they illustrate that the other has recognised that you have not fallen victim to the collective insanity that has infected most people in our societies, nevertheless were not complete as a list of describing me adequately, because I am also islamophobic, genderphobic, progressophobic, dumbophobic, consensophobic, debtophobic, totalitarianisophobic , and proud practitioner of a lot of other anti-mainstream and anti-political-correctness phobias as well. If you spill me with praise and compliments, please make sure that the list of combat terms to celebrate me in is more or less complete, else I feel belittled and maybe even slandered, and that is something my monstrous ego finds hard to bear.