Manual Transmission Question

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  1. Wilko Jones

    Wilko Jones Well-Known Member

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    When using a manual transmission in RaceRoom, sometimes I grab the wrong gear, but catch my mistake before releasing the clutch pedal. When I select the gear I want, I instantly damage the transmission. This is all before lifting off of the clutch pedal.

    I learned that I cannot get away with this in RaceRoom, but I wonder why that is? As long as I keep the clutch pedal fully pressed, I should be able to put the gear lever in any position I want; at least, that is what I believe. Could someone tell me why RaceRoom doesn't allow me to go into and out of a shift gate while the clutch is firmly disengaged?

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. DrKarotte

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    Unfortunately I had to demount my H shifter, but as far as I can remember it behaved as expected (being able to do anything with the gear stick while the clutch is pressed). But now I have a similar question with the combination manual transmission/paddles (ok, not realistic, but not forbidden). I noticed the following when driving an H shifter car with manual transmission and using shift up/down instead of gear 1, 2 etc. When shifting down, the revs go up instantly with the cluth pressed. Similar to Wilko Jones I think nothing like this should happen unless I release the cluth pedal?
     
  3. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson KW Studios Developer

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    The reason for this is that other than a handful of historic cars we're simulating gearboxes which do not use a synchromesh. This is a system which uses effectively small clutches to synchronize the rotational speeds of the gears and main shaft before they are selected. With this sort of gearbox you can, as you say, select any gear at any time as long as you have the clutch pedal pressed down.

    However most of our cars use boxes with dog gear engagement. With this gear selection type, matching revs and road speeds is critical and unless it's correctly done gears will not be able to be selected. As you are experiencing. The chances are that by the time you've realised you error and made a second gear selection the engine revs have dropped too low and hence you can't find a gear.

    So to summarise, yes it is intentional as it represents a specific type of gearbox and it's real world behaviour.

    Hope this helps!
     
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  4. Wilko Jones

    Wilko Jones Well-Known Member

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    Thanks a million. Yes, it more than helps.
     
  5. Maskerader

    Maskerader Well-Known Member

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    Are there any cars with synchromesh in Raceroom?
     
  6. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson KW Studios Developer

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    Porsche 934, 964, 962
    Fabcar 935

    All use the type 915, 930 and G50 Porsche gearboxes.
     
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  7. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    So those should be easier to shift?
     
  8. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson KW Studios Developer

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    Less particular about rev matching but slower to actually change
     
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  9. fedor

    fedor New Member

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    manual gearbox selected works with selected in config menu but will not work in any session or car G920
     
  10. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    H pattern only works on cars with hbox and if your gears are bound in the controls settings

    Andi
     
  11. fedor

    fedor New Member

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    all the cars that used to work with man gear shift now do not bindings show they all work but they dont in game
    Mazda 5 man ?
     
  12. Beastux

    Beastux Well-Known Member

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    No problem for me with H-shifter and clutch.
     
  13. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    Mazda is a sequential 6 speed not a hbox ,

    Andi
     
  14. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Not true. All manual cars work with manual H shifter if you have the game set up that way.
     
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  15. Wilko Jones

    Wilko Jones Well-Known Member

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    I cant look at the moment, but if you mapped your shifter and intend on running a manual gearbox, make sure you have the option to use an H pattern shifter switched on. I don't remember where that option is though. Its not with the key assignments.
     
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  16. fedor

    fedor New Member

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    fixed problem had button mapped for gearbox split when i tested truck have now unmapped and it all works again
    Why is the Mazda mx5 here a sequential shift when the real car is a H pattern shift
     
  17. Wilko Jones

    Wilko Jones Well-Known Member

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    It doesn't have an H-Pattern transmission.

    https://www.mx-5cup.com/about/mx5-car-info

    Scroll down to drive train and you'll find...

    "Sealed SADEV six-speed Sequential racing transmission with pump and cooler."
     
  18. fedor

    fedor New Member

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    thanks no much of the original car ,cheap entry level racing ?
    I drive an E46 M3 the beginning of sequential gear box's