Brakes!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Popo28, Jan 27, 2023.

  1. Popo28

    Popo28 New Member

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    WHAT ABOUT THE BRAKES. No more blocking, no matter what you set?
     
  2. VFX Pro

    VFX Pro Well-Known Member

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    I dare you to provide even less details (cars, track, temperatures, setup screenshot) and expect any help!!
     
  3. Popo28

    Popo28 New Member

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    every car, every track,, standard setup.....
     
  4. VFX Pro

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    When you say "blocking", are you talking about "locking" when the tyres don't lock if you brake too hard? They lock for me... check your brake deadzone in your calibration and brake bias on the setup, crank it up....
     
  5. Popo28

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    Ok, update. it seems only on DTM 2020, GTR3 usw. cars.
     
  6. Maskerader

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  7. FeltHλt

    FeltHλt Moderator Beta tester

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    dtm2020 locks easily, check your assists, inputs and brake settings/setup
     
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  8. fischhaltefolie

    fischhaltefolie Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I realised active ABS in Otterhud with GT3 Cars but no sounds or vibrations.
    @Alex Hodgkinson, sensations in a race car are more direct and brutal. How is activated ABS in a thoroughbread GT3? Am I missing something?
    Edit: I also can't find a way to set the ABS level in increments.
     
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  9. VFX Pro

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    I do wish there would be some (or greater) level of ABS vibrations in the FFB and the telemetry for buttkickers.
     
  10. Andi Goodwin

    Andi Goodwin Moderator Beta tester

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    Telemetry is there as fanatec pedals read it
    As for ffb , its not a steering force generated by the geometry

    Andi
     
  11. ShortyBuzzGER

    ShortyBuzzGER Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    There is no way in R3E to set or change ABS levels. it is either on or off
     
  12. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson KW Studios Developer

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    Motorsport ABS systems work in the same way they do on their road car counterparts. However they are optimised to maximise tyre grip rather than simply a tool to help the driver retain control.

    So, the question is, does a road car shake rattle and roll like crazy when the ABS is active?
    Or is it simply a background noise with a faint oscillation at the brake pedal?
     
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  13. fischhaltefolie

    fischhaltefolie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for your answer.
    I put it to the test with my car.
    No feeling in the wheel, lots of it in the brake pedal, but clearly audible.
    So I'm missing some acoustic feedback.

    Is abs level adjustable irl gt3, ... and are there any plans for rr if so?

    Thank you
     
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  14. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    I have abs on my pedals via a shaker and simhub. Works just fine.
     
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    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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  16. Maskerader

    Maskerader Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, I totally forgot about that...
     
  17. Alex Hodgkinson

    Alex Hodgkinson KW Studios Developer

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    Exactly, so what you really need if you wish to be more accurate is a large shaker mounted directly to your brake pedal.

    It's adjustable in some GT3s yes but not all. Ours is a closed loop system which can currently adapt automatically as tyre grip levels change, so the driver input is not really needed. Also as long as our track conditions remain unchanging adjustability is fairly redundant.
     
  18. Maskerader

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    Is there any difference between how "ABS" and "Factory ABS" work?
     
  19. ravey1981

    ravey1981 Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    The ABS assist (non factory fitted) is a lot less efficient, longer braking distances and so slower. Then you have the weight penalty on top of that.
     
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  20. Maskerader

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    I assumed so but from a quick look I didn't notice any significant difference, that's why I asked. Now, I went and tested it thoroughly and still found no difference. Neither while driving, nor while directly comparing braking distances. I did adjust for the ballast (reduced fuel by 12 l).

    I tested that too, tried a GT3 car without ABS and the braking distance was shorter. This probably can be used when "Free choice" is available...