Discussion in 'Community Workshop' started by Georg Ortner, Jan 10, 2018.
@J-F Chardon could you guys add the "Performance Index" to the r3e-data.json's classes?
Good point, I didn't know it was missing. Will add!
Is there already a way to find out all PI's, except of the result-json files from the dedi?
You can find the very latest Performance Index in my car look-up-list (link above).
Can we have an update?
Hi All, I hope I am in the right place. I was looking for track IDs but I can't find them anywhere. Is there a list for it somewhere? Similar to this performance car index that has car IDs.
All IDs (car and track) can be found in the r3e-data.json file stored locally at
Steam\steamapps\common\raceroom racing experience\Game\GameData\General
Just open it with Notepad, and do a text-search for the track you're looking for.
Alternatively, there's my own list:
Grand Prix: 5301
Autodrom Most: 7111
Brands Hatch: 2520
Chang International Circuit
Full Curcuit: 4253
D Curcuit: 4944
Circuit Park Zandvoort
Grand Prix: 1678
Circuit Zolder: 1684
Grand Prix: 2468
Grand Prix: 5925
Grand Prix: 1693
Grand Prix: 1852
Knutstorp Ring: 6137
Full Run: 1682
Mazda Laguna Seca: 1856
Grand Prix: 1671
Motorsport Arena Oschersleben: 2384
24 Hours: 5095
Grand Prix: 1691
Solution 3C: 2867
Solution 1A: 4246
Solution 1C-V2: 4247
Solution 2A Short: 4248
Grand Prix: 1778
Club Chicane: 1785
Full Run: 1705
Grand Prix: 263
Classic Sprint: 265
Red Bull Ring Speilberg
Grand Prix: 2556
Road America: 5276
Grand Prix: 6341
Grand Prix: 2027
Intermediate (WTCC): 4041
West Long: 4042
Grand Prix: 4039
Historic GP: 5862
Slovakia Ring: 2064
Grand Prix: 3870
Grand Prix: 1841
East Course: 2012
West Course: 2013
Twin Ring Motegi
Road Course: 6658
Haven't updated it in a while though, so the new stuff (Ning-bo and Bilsterberg for sure, might be others) are currently missing from that one.
Thanks for help and for your list.
@XanderSJX here is the full extract
I have a question regarding the different cars in the GTR3 class. Some say the newer models have a better performance over the older ones. All share the same PI.
Is that just a question of (stock-)setup or is it true that the newer cars are faster?
Some of the older cars are slower due to less power/grip and no amount of setup can fix that. In the shop, you can see the cars most people use to win or be ahead cost 4 euros. Haven´t seen many people beat them using cheaper cars.
So is it correct to give those slower cars the same PI? Don't think so.
Apparently there has been a BOP adjustment since then. I can see some people posting good laptimes with the older cars but IMHO the BMW M6 and 911 2019 are still about 0.5/1 second per lap faster than the others on norma tracks.
The performance difference between the Nissan and the other cars in Euro classics is much bigger yet they have the same PI.
If PI is supposed to be used as a reference to create multi-class races then I think it's fine. All these old and new GT3 cars belong in the same class after all.
Corvette is looking pretty strong too.
Yes...all GT3 are in the same class. But the performance (this is what PI stands for) is noticable different.
TBH I don't think the M6 and a Mc Laren are in the same class really. And to drive older cars in a race seems completely pointless
Same in GTR4, where most races are a BMW Cup at the moment.
Yeah, that's true, and I recall there was a small discussion about that on the forums a couple of months ago.
I think if the game could assign the same car to several classes at once, it'd be possible to have something like "GTR3 legacy" and "GTR3 competition" classes in addition to our current GTR3 class.
Even the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Endurance always will start in the grid before the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Carrera Cup Deutschland although they have the same performance index.
ok, that makes sense because the 911 Endurance has TC and ABS and the Deutschland Cupper has not.
But again...those two shouldn't have the same PI.
Any idea where the new Lada Vesta TCR falls in this? Same as WTCR18/19?
Yes, it's compatible with the TCR cars (2018, 2019 and maybe 2020)
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