Performance Index

Discussion in 'Community Workshop' started by Georg Ortner, Jan 10, 2018.

  1. pixeljetstream

    pixeljetstream Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    @J-F Chardon could you guys add the "Performance Index" to the r3e-data.json's classes?
     
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  2. J-F Chardon

    J-F Chardon KW Studios Developer

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    Good point, I didn't know it was missing. Will add!
     
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  3. keanos

    keanos Well-Known Member

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    Is there already a way to find out all PI's, except of the result-json files from the dedi?
     
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  5. Torned The Bullet

    Torned The Bullet Active Member

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    Can we have an update?

    Thx :)
     
  6. XanderSJX

    XanderSJX New Member

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    Hi All, I hope I am in the right place. I was looking for track IDs but I can't find them anywhere. Is there a list for it somewhere? Similar to this performance car index that has car IDs.
     
  7. CheerfullyInsane

    CheerfullyInsane Well-Known Member

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    All IDs (car and track) can be found in the r3e-data.json file stored locally at
    Steam\steamapps\common\raceroom racing experience\Game\GameData\General
    Just open it with Notepad, and do a text-search for the track you're looking for.

    Alternatively, there's my own list:
    Anderstorp
    Grand Prix: 5301
    South: 6164

    Autodrom Most: 7111

    Bathurst: 1846

    Brands Hatch: 2520

    Chang International Circuit
    Full Curcuit: 4253
    D Curcuit: 4944

    Circuit Park Zandvoort
    Grand Prix: 1678
    National: 1680
    Club: 1679

    Circuit Zolder: 1684

    Eurospeedway Lausitz
    Grand Prix: 2468
    Automobilsport: 3291

    Falkenberg: 6140

    Gelleråsen
    Grand Prix: 5925
    Short: 6138

    Hockenheim
    Grand Prix: 1693
    National: 1763
    Short: 1764

    Hungaroring: 1866

    Imola: 1850

    Indianapolis
    Grand Prix: 1852
    Moto: 2014

    Knutstorp Ring: 6137

    Lakeview Hillclimb
    Full Run: 1682
    Reverse: 2181

    Macau: 2123

    Mantorp Park
    Long: 6010
    Short: 6167

    Mazda Laguna Seca: 1856

    Mid Ohio:
    Full: 1674
    Chicane: 1676
    Short: 1675

    Monza
    Grand Prix: 1671
    Junior: 1672

    Moscow Raceway
    Sprint: 2473
    Full: 3383
    FIM: 3683

    Motorsport Arena Oschersleben: 2384

    Nordschleife
    Nordschleife: 2813
    VLN: 4975
    Tourist: 5093
    24 Hours: 5095

    Norisring: 2518

    Nürburgring
    Grand Prix: 1691
    Short: 2011
    Sprint: 3377

    Paul Ricard
    Solution 3C: 2867
    Solution 1A: 4246
    Solution 1C-V2: 4247
    Solution 2A Short: 4248

    Portimao
    Grand Prix: 1778
    National: 1783
    Club: 1784
    Club Chicane: 1785

    Raceroom Hillclimb
    Full Run: 1705
    Reverse: 2214

    Raceroom raceway
    Grand Prix: 263
    Bridge: 266
    Classic: 264
    Classic Sprint: 265
    National: 267

    Red Bull Ring Speilberg
    Grand Prix: 2556
    National: 5794

    Road America: 5276

    Sachsenring: 3538

    Salzburgring: 2026

    Sepang
    Grand Prix: 6341
    North: 6578
    South: 6579

    Shanghai
    Grand Prix: 2027
    Intermediate (WTCC): 4041
    West Long: 4042

    Silverstone
    Grand Prix: 4039
    International: 5816
    National: 5817
    Historic GP: 5862

    Slovakia Ring: 2064

    Sonoma Raceway
    WTCC: 1854
    Sprint: 2016
    Long: 3912
    IRL: 3913

    Spa-Francorchamps
    Grand Prix: 3870
    Classic: 4542
    Combined: 4543

    Suzuka
    Grand Prix: 1841
    East Course: 2012
    West Course: 2013

    Stowe
    Long: 6055
    Short: 6056

    Twin Ring Motegi
    Road Course: 6658

    Zhuhai: 3464

    Haven't updated it in a while though, so the new stuff (Ning-bo and Bilsterberg for sure, might be others) are currently missing from that one.
     
  8. XanderSJX

    XanderSJX New Member

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    Thanks for help and for your list. :)
     
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  10. Aurigarius

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    I have a question regarding the different cars in the GTR3 class. Some say the newer models have a better performance over the older ones. All share the same PI.
    Is that just a question of (stock-)setup or is it true that the newer cars are faster?
     
  11. Vale

    Vale Well-Known Member

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    Some of the older cars are slower due to less power/grip and no amount of setup can fix that. In the shop, you can see the cars most people use to win or be ahead cost 4 euros. Haven´t seen many people beat them using cheaper cars.
     
  12. Aurigarius

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    So is it correct to give those slower cars the same PI? Don't think so.
     
  13. Vale

    Vale Well-Known Member

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    Apparently there has been a BOP adjustment since then. I can see some people posting good laptimes with the older cars but IMHO the BMW M6 and 911 2019 are still about 0.5/1 second per lap faster than the others on norma tracks.

    The performance difference between the Nissan and the other cars in Euro classics is much bigger yet they have the same PI.
     
  14. Maskerader

    Maskerader Well-Known Member

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    If PI is supposed to be used as a reference to create multi-class races then I think it's fine. All these old and new GT3 cars belong in the same class after all.

    Corvette is looking pretty strong too.
     
  15. Aurigarius

    Aurigarius Member

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    Yes...all GT3 are in the same class. But the performance (this is what PI stands for) is noticable different.
    TBH I don't think the M6 and a Mc Laren are in the same class really. And to drive older cars in a race seems completely pointless

    Same in GTR4, where most races are a BMW Cup at the moment.
     
  16. Maskerader

    Maskerader Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that's true, and I recall there was a small discussion about that on the forums a couple of months ago.

    I think if the game could assign the same car to several classes at once, it'd be possible to have something like "GTR3 legacy" and "GTR3 competition" classes in addition to our current GTR3 class.
     
  17. Zziggy

    Zziggy Well-Known Member

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    Even the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Endurance always will start in the grid before the Porsche 911 GT3 Cup Carrera Cup Deutschland although they have the same performance index.
     
  18. Aurigarius

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    ok, that makes sense because the 911 Endurance has TC and ABS and the Deutschland Cupper has not.
    But again...those two shouldn't have the same PI.
     
  19. azaris

    azaris Active Member

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    Any idea where the new Lada Vesta TCR falls in this? Same as WTCR18/19?
     
  20. Olaf Hülse

    Olaf Hülse Well-Known Member Beta tester

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    Yes, it's compatible with the TCR cars (2018, 2019 and maybe 2020)
    Greetings